New iFly Tablet NMEA output

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Three questions:
1. Does the new tablet currently have the capability to output NMEA data to my Trio AP?

2. And if it does, is there anyone out there to share their experiences, good, bad or indifferent.

3. If the answer is that there is not currently that capability, is there a timeline pointing to the return of this feature?
 
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Nitrodawg said:
Three questions:
1. Does the new tablet currently have the capability to output NMEA data to my Trio AP?

3. If the answer is that there is not currently that capability, is there a timeline pointing to the return of this feature?
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The publicly-released version (v13.0) of iFly EFB does not currently have the capability to output NMEA data.

However, NMEA output for both the new iFly Aviation Tablet (hardline via its external chassis) and for all Android tablets (wirelessly via Bluetooth adapter--Adventure Pilot is currently testing with this device: Sena SD1000) is currently in beta testing and is planned to be included in the next iFly release (v13.1).

The inevitable follow-up question is, "When will v13.1 be released?" The answer is, "Soon," with the caveat that "soon" in software development time is highly variable. The more accurate answer is, "When it's ready." Perhaps a few weeks, perhaps a few months.
 
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I know this is an older post but same question has anyone used the X7 with the Bluetooth device and been able to hardwire on over to the AP?? Some questions are: does the pogo connection on the side also have NMEA data access along with power for the X7. And if so could it be hardwired as opposed to Bluetooth..
 
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I purchased an X7 from the manufacturer. The unit is a vast improvement over other tablets including iPads. I still have my trusty 740 in the front cockpit due to my autopilot requirements of serial data. The Iflyefb online manual states that serial data is available via a USB port, but I believe they are referring to the large Ifly tablet, not the X7, The X7 has a USB-c port, but customer service advises that NMEA data is not supported on that port. I am just not ready to give up a solid wired A/P connection to a bluetooth adapter that has terrible connectivity issues in the Amazon reviews.
 
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Well I received the SENA SD1000 Bluetooth today. Was hopeing to find some info enclosed to tell me which pin number of the DB9 I could use to get NMEA data output from. No such info. Power for the SD1000 is USB plug and is doable with a USB to 12v module. The baud rate looks straight forward as to the info printed on the device. BUT which pin out can I find NMEA data. Looked at the Sena.net support site and about all that was there was not understandable for me. Anyone found NEMA source output pin # for the SenaSD 1000 BT device that we can use???
 
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Think I may have found the answer. As per the Instal Guide found on Google here's a screen shot. Looks like pin 2 signal out and pin 5 is signal ground. Interesting that pin 9 can be used for 5v to 12v input( assume to be power for BT device) and acceptable to use 12vdc. Screenshot_20250828_194046_Firefox.jpg
 
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DRRhodes said:
Think I may have found the answer. As per the Instal Guide found on Google here's a screen shot. Looks like pin 2 signal out and pin 5 is signal ground. Interesting that pin 9 can be used for 5v to 12v input( assume to be power for BT device) and acceptable to use 12vdc. View attachment 1426
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Yes it is pin 2
 
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Have you had the chance to connect it yet? Amazon has mixed reviews about connectivity/reliability
 
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Not connected to GRT AP yet. . I will post here the results of that. Maybe a weekend or two yet. I have it powered up on a shop bench BT connected to my phone but not any good way to tell if the NMEA is available yet.
 
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Unfortunately it only works with Android platforms. I set up a demo device and ran it. I used a serial logger to validate the NMEA sentences were flowing. I did not put in the plane as I did not want to pull the panel apart for testing.

I had no issues with connections dropping on either side.
 
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Progress report: powered up BT and X7 . Got to the setup and aligned NMEA data to be output. Appears that data being output. Next step will be to connect the RS232 wire and ground and see if it will feed the GRT.
 

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9/ 6/25. Installed in RV7, powered up and appears to be paired with X7. problem with the X7 in that it will not allow me to select the box " Bluetooth RS232." And neither can I select on the next page the device name I have for the BT. So never was able to see any communications on the GRT although it appeared to be paired . Guess this is a question for iFly and the software routing of the comm data to the BT device. About all I can do is verify it's paired, that's indicated by a green LED on the BT that flashes every 1 sec. Here's couple pic of the error messages received.
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Tried couple of different android pads with iFlyefb with the same results. Also the error messages that says not connected to the BToutput adapter will be followed with a message that says it is connected. Will do this with or without power on the BT !
 

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Thanks for the progress report. I hope that it works well for you. For now, I a using the X7 to feed the 740 with the wifi. The 740 is using the rs232/ usb cable.
 
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DRRhodes said:
Progress report: powered up BT and X7 . Got to the setup and aligned NMEA data to be output. Appears that data being output. Next step will be to connect the RS232 wire and ground and see if it will feed the GRT.
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I have been using the iFly BT NMEA out function for close to 200 hours now with my Android tablets and a TrioEZ Pilot with complete success, but with a DSD TECH SH-23A adapter. I have seen the failed BT connection message a few times before, but it only happens when I fail to close out (uncheck) the BT out connection in the set up menu prior to shutting down the iFly after my last flight. I get the exact messages in your last two screen shots. A power down and up of iFly and the BT adapter usually corrects the failure.

I think what causes the failure is that iFly remembers and is trying to connect to a previously closed socket on the adapter. While the last message says connection success the adapter LED blink sequence doesn't agree.

My start up sequence:
Power up Stratux, BT adapter, connect my android tablet to Stratux WiFi, open iFly and wait for Stratux to connect, Tap iFly setup, NMEA out settings, send to RS-232, and select my adapter.

My shut down sequence:
Power down Stratux, BT adapter, go to NMEA BT out in the setup menu and close out (uncheck) the RS-232 out connection in the set up menu, then exit iFly

I've never had a dropped connection with my setup. The thing I like about the DSD adapter is that just powers up with ships 5V, doesn't have to be touched and can be hidden. All of the connection process is done from my tablet.

I think you are close!
 
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DRRhodes: Are you hardwired from the adapter directly to the AP or the GRT itself?

I don't use the X7 but am successfully sending nmea hardwired from the adapter to the GRT and then the GRT controls the AP.

The other question after reading your posts: I think the SD adapter defaults to connect with the previously connected device. I make sure other BT sources (my phone BT) is turned off before trying to connect. But then, maybe you're now past that possible hurdle.
 
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Wow… That seems like an awful lot of work just to get NMEA output to a EFIS or auto pilot. I wonder if it would be easier if the USB – C port were activated. I don’t know very much about coding but, I would hope that someday this would be possible. A wired connection is just about 100% fool proof
 
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9/7/25. Have success with the SD1000 BT and the GRT. I had used a break out DB9 board and would you know that the pin 5 on that board was open!! The printed circuit route was damaged! Replaced the DB9 and com was established with the GRT. I find that on initial power up that the connection to the BT has to be re-established but that can be done on the iFly menu by re selecting "send BT 232" and re selecting the "device name" then it immediately connects and the red led indicates com established with GRT.
Have not flown as of yet but will update when that happens. Don't think that will present any issues since the internal GRT AP has been proven for many hours prior, from the 740b.
 
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Yes
Miser Bird the startup sequence for the SD1000 seems to be the same. At least from the half dozen times Ihave started it here for testing.
 
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